On my ideal for there one day being a Utopia:
A : 'you can't change human nature - it is what it is '
(continuing) 'why dont you just remodel what you think utopia is ; because your version with its focus on lack of injustices is unworkable! '
Me : hmm...Ok , imagine a world where there exists a wealthy region , let us call this region 'the west'.
Discussion over : pancakes and orange juice
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